Electrode comparison
E309L vs E316L
E309L is for dissimilar joints and overlays; E316L is for matching 316 base metal in chloride service. They solve unrelated problems.
E309L vs E316L at a glance
| E309L | E316L | |
|---|---|---|
| AWS specification | AWS A5.4/A5.4M | AWS A5.4/A5.4M |
| Process | Stick (SMAW) | Stick (SMAW) |
| Form | Covered electrode | Covered electrode |
| Tensile strength (min) | 75 ksi | 70 ksi |
| Yield strength (min) | 45 ksi | 40 ksi |
| Elongation (min) | 30% | 30% |
| Impact toughness | Not required by the specification | Not required; austenitic deposits remain tough at low temperature |
| Polarity | DCEP, AC | DCEP, AC |
| Positions | Flat, Horizontal, Vertical, Overhead | Flat, Horizontal, Vertical, Overhead |
| Penetration | Shallow to medium | Shallow to medium |
| Deposition rate | Medium | Medium |
| Coating / core | Lime-titania (-16) | Lime-titania (-16) |
| Slag | Self-lifting, must be fully removed between passes | Self-lifting, remove completely between passes |
| Shielding gas | None — self-shielding | None — self-shielding |
| Storage | Dry storage, rod oven after opening — same discipline as E308L. | Dry storage; rod oven at 250–300 °F (120–150 °C) after opening. |
| Primary use | Joining austenitic stainless to carbon or low-alloy steel | Marine and offshore stainless fabrication |
Which should you use?
These two are rarely alternatives for the same joint. E309L's job is to survive dilution: its 23Cr-12Ni chemistry is deliberately rich so that mixing with carbon steel still leaves a sound austenitic-ferritic deposit. E316L's job is corrosion resistance: its 2 to 3% molybdenum fights pitting in chlorides. If you are joining 316 to carbon steel, you need dilution tolerance first, so E309L (or E309LMo where the specification calls for it) is the usual answer, not E316L.
Choose E309L when
- Stainless to carbon steel joints
- First layer of a clad overlay
- Unknown or hard-to-weld base metals
Choose E316L when
- Matching 316 or 316L base metal
- Chloride and marine service
- Chemical and pharmaceutical process work
Amperage compared
| Diameter | E309L | E316L |
|---|---|---|
| 3/32 in (2.4 mm) | 40–80 A | 40–80 A |
| 1/8 in (3.2 mm) | 65–110 A | 65–110 A |
| 5/32 in (4.0 mm) | 95–150 A | 95–150 A |
| 3/16 in (4.8 mm) | 130–190 A | 130–190 A |
Ranges are typical starting points. Diameters listed for only one electrode are shown as — for the other.
E309L vs E316L — common questions
What do you use to weld 316 stainless to carbon steel?
E309L is the common answer, with E309LMo specified where molybdenum must be carried through the transition weld. E316L alone would dilute into a crack-sensitive composition.
Does E309L resist chlorides like E316L?
Not in the same way. E309L has higher chromium but no molybdenum, so it does not match E316L's pitting resistance in chloride service.
Can E309L be used as a general stainless filler?
It will weld most austenitic grades soundly, which is why it is a popular repair rod for unknown steels. For matching work it costs more than the correct filler without adding anything.
Full specifications
E309L
AWS A5.4/A5.4M
E309L is the dissimilar-metal electrode — its extra chromium and nickel survive dilution when joining stainless to carbon steel or laying a stainless overlay.
E316L
AWS A5.4/A5.4M
E316L adds 2–3% molybdenum for pitting and chloride resistance, making it the electrode for 316/316L marine, chemical and pharmaceutical work.