Electrode comparison

ER309L vs ER316L

ER309L handles dilution on dissimilar joints; ER316L handles chlorides on matching 316 work. Different problems, different wires.

ER309L vs ER316L at a glance

ER309LER316L
AWS specification AWS A5.9/A5.9M AWS A5.9/A5.9M
Process TIG (GTAW) / MIG (GMAW) TIG (GTAW) / MIG (GMAW)
Form Solid wire / rod Solid wire / rod
Tensile strength (min) 75 ksi 70 ksi
Yield strength (min) 45 ksi 40 ksi
Elongation (min) 30% 30%
Impact toughness Not required by the specification Not required; austenitic deposits remain tough at low temperature
Polarity DCEP (GMAW), DCEN (GTAW) DCEP (GMAW), DCEN (GTAW)
Positions Flat, Horizontal, Vertical, Overhead Flat, Horizontal, Vertical, Overhead
Penetration Medium Medium
Deposition rate Medium to high depending on process Medium to high depending on process
Coating / core None — bare wire or rod None — bare wire or rod
Slag None; light oxide film to be cleaned None; light oxide film to be cleaned or pickled
Shielding gas 100% argon for TIG; tri-mix or 98/2 for MIG 100% argon for TIG; tri-mix or 98/2 for MIG
Storage Clean, dry, isolated from carbon steel contamination. Clean, dry and isolated from iron contamination.
Primary use Stainless-to-carbon-steel transition joints Marine and offshore piping and structures

Which should you use?

ER309L exists to tolerate dilution: welding stainless to carbon steel, or laying the first layer of an overlay, where a matching filler would be diluted into a crack-sensitive composition. ER316L exists to resist chlorides on 316 base metal. When you are joining 316 to carbon steel, dilution is the immediate problem, so ER309L or ER309LMo is specified rather than ER316L. On a 316-to-316 joint, ER316L is correct and ER309L would simply be the wrong chemistry.

Choose ER309L when

  • Stainless to carbon steel joints
  • Overlay buffer layers
  • Repair welding on unknown steels

Choose ER316L when

  • Matching 316 or 316L base metal
  • Chloride and seawater exposure
  • Sanitary and chemical process piping

Amperage compared

DiameterER309LER316L
0.030 in (0.8 mm) MIG50–150 A50–150 A
0.035 in (0.9 mm) MIG70–180 A70–180 A
0.045 in (1.2 mm) MIG100–250 A100–250 A
1/16 in (1.6 mm) TIG40–90 A40–90 A
3/32 in (2.4 mm) TIG70–130 A70–130 A
1/8 in (3.2 mm) TIG100–180 A100–180 A

Ranges are typical starting points. Diameters listed for only one electrode are shown as — for the other.

ER309L vs ER316L — common questions

Which wire for 316 stainless to mild steel?

ER309L is the standard choice; ER309LMo is specified where molybdenum must be carried into the transition weld. Follow the governing WPS.

Does ER309L resist pitting like ER316L?

No. It has more chromium but no molybdenum, so it does not match ER316L in chloride environments.

Can ER316L be used for a dissimilar joint?

Not safely on stainless to carbon steel. Dilution drops its alloy content into a martensitic range and the weld is liable to crack.

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