Electrode comparison
ER309L vs ER316L
ER309L handles dilution on dissimilar joints; ER316L handles chlorides on matching 316 work. Different problems, different wires.
ER309L vs ER316L at a glance
| ER309L | ER316L | |
|---|---|---|
| AWS specification | AWS A5.9/A5.9M | AWS A5.9/A5.9M |
| Process | TIG (GTAW) / MIG (GMAW) | TIG (GTAW) / MIG (GMAW) |
| Form | Solid wire / rod | Solid wire / rod |
| Tensile strength (min) | 75 ksi | 70 ksi |
| Yield strength (min) | 45 ksi | 40 ksi |
| Elongation (min) | 30% | 30% |
| Impact toughness | Not required by the specification | Not required; austenitic deposits remain tough at low temperature |
| Polarity | DCEP (GMAW), DCEN (GTAW) | DCEP (GMAW), DCEN (GTAW) |
| Positions | Flat, Horizontal, Vertical, Overhead | Flat, Horizontal, Vertical, Overhead |
| Penetration | Medium | Medium |
| Deposition rate | Medium to high depending on process | Medium to high depending on process |
| Coating / core | None — bare wire or rod | None — bare wire or rod |
| Slag | None; light oxide film to be cleaned | None; light oxide film to be cleaned or pickled |
| Shielding gas | 100% argon for TIG; tri-mix or 98/2 for MIG | 100% argon for TIG; tri-mix or 98/2 for MIG |
| Storage | Clean, dry, isolated from carbon steel contamination. | Clean, dry and isolated from iron contamination. |
| Primary use | Stainless-to-carbon-steel transition joints | Marine and offshore piping and structures |
Which should you use?
ER309L exists to tolerate dilution: welding stainless to carbon steel, or laying the first layer of an overlay, where a matching filler would be diluted into a crack-sensitive composition. ER316L exists to resist chlorides on 316 base metal. When you are joining 316 to carbon steel, dilution is the immediate problem, so ER309L or ER309LMo is specified rather than ER316L. On a 316-to-316 joint, ER316L is correct and ER309L would simply be the wrong chemistry.
Choose ER309L when
- Stainless to carbon steel joints
- Overlay buffer layers
- Repair welding on unknown steels
Choose ER316L when
- Matching 316 or 316L base metal
- Chloride and seawater exposure
- Sanitary and chemical process piping
Amperage compared
| Diameter | ER309L | ER316L |
|---|---|---|
| 0.030 in (0.8 mm) MIG | 50–150 A | 50–150 A |
| 0.035 in (0.9 mm) MIG | 70–180 A | 70–180 A |
| 0.045 in (1.2 mm) MIG | 100–250 A | 100–250 A |
| 1/16 in (1.6 mm) TIG | 40–90 A | 40–90 A |
| 3/32 in (2.4 mm) TIG | 70–130 A | 70–130 A |
| 1/8 in (3.2 mm) TIG | 100–180 A | 100–180 A |
Ranges are typical starting points. Diameters listed for only one electrode are shown as — for the other.
ER309L vs ER316L — common questions
Which wire for 316 stainless to mild steel?
ER309L is the standard choice; ER309LMo is specified where molybdenum must be carried into the transition weld. Follow the governing WPS.
Does ER309L resist pitting like ER316L?
No. It has more chromium but no molybdenum, so it does not match ER316L in chloride environments.
Can ER316L be used for a dissimilar joint?
Not safely on stainless to carbon steel. Dilution drops its alloy content into a martensitic range and the weld is liable to crack.
Full specifications
ER309L
AWS A5.9/A5.9M
ER309L is the bare filler for welding stainless to carbon steel — over-alloyed at 23Cr-12Ni so the joint stays crack-free after dilution.
ER316L
AWS A5.9/A5.9M
ER316L is the molybdenum-bearing bare filler for 316 and 316L stainless — the standard TIG rod and MIG wire for marine, chemical and sanitary service.